submitted by James Elwing on 22.02.2006
Information regarding glass plate negatives.
Views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the Powerhouse Museum.
Information on the following websites will prove helpful. [Do not be concerned with minor disagreements regarding handling and treatment]:
The Upper Midwest Conservation Association, UMCA Technical leaflet 'Cleaning glass Plate Negative's'.
Preservation and Archives Professionals. How do I house glass plate negatives?
There was a very good reference which was located at:
http://slisweb.lis.wise.edu/~hamuir/678/glass.html 'Images on Glass: collodion Wet Plates and Gelatine Dry Plates'.
which appears to have been moved/lost.
This was prepared as part of the Preservation conservation course at the UW - Madison's School of Library and Information Studies.
In the interim go to UW's, Madison web-site at:
There you will find reference to following workshop:
"The recommended text for this workshop is the Society of American Archivists's (SAA) manual Administration of Photographic Collections, by Mary Lynn Ritzenthaler, et. al.; OR if available, the forthcoming SAA manual Photographs: Archival Care and Management [due out in 2006] by Mary Lynn Ritzenthaler and Diane Vogt-O'Connor, with contributions by Helena Zinkham, Kit Peterson, and Brett Carnell. (These publications can be purchased at SAA's website, http://archivists.org/)".
Each of these websites provides information about the two types of glass plate negative, the earlier collodion (cellulose nitrate) wet plate and the later dry plate. They give the dates for each.
You can also look at:
'Glass Negatives' Information sheet 5.3.10 copyright NMPFT 2000 National Museum of Photography Film and Television Bradford, West Yorkshire http://www.nmpft.org.uk
'Tech Talk - Glass Plate Negatives -Storage of glass plate Negatives, Robert Herskovitz Chief conservator, Minnesota Historical Society Minnesota history Interpreter. July 1999.
John Stathatos, of Potamos, Kythera, also recommends the following reference, which includes extensive illustrations and is useful in helping to distinguish collodion from dry plates:
There are glass plate sizes up to 18x22 inches (460x560mm), and probably larger, depending on the sizes of printing paper available. These tended to have a wider variety of sizes with collodion plates as these were prepared by the photographer. Later gelatin plates were factory prepared and sizes became more regular, related to popular camera formats.
In the 1860s, there were no enlargers, so all prints were contact prints, where the glass plate was laid face down on the photographic print paper; the print was therefore the actual size of the plate. With later gelatin plates, an enlarger could be used.
8.5 ins x 6.5 ins (called whole plate) =215x165mm
6.5 ins x 4.75 ins (called half-plate) =164x120mm
4.25 ins x 3.25 ins (called quarter-plate) =110x82mm =105x80mm
Modern sizes for sheet film, the successor to glass plates, included plate sizes plus:
Called 5 ins x 4 ins = 100x130mm approx
Called 10 ins x 8 ins = 200x255mm approx
I am fairly sure these sizes were also available in gelatin glass plates.
There in nothing special about the glass. Evenness and flatness were better with gelatin plates. When you find glass plates, the plain glass side is frequently much more dirty. The emulsion - ‘ image’ -side, as long as it has not been affected by mould or water, can be cleaned gently by blower brush / fine brush, as described.
If the glass, non emulsion side, needs cleaning, a mixture of distilled water with a little ethanol / methylated spirits and a little ammonia may be used on a soft damp cotton swab / cloth, as long as this is discarded when dirty. If the image is peeling off, this may not be possible. No free liquid may be used, as this may reach the emulsion edges.
The edges of the plate must be supported to stop the face-down emulsion contacting anything during this process. I do not recommend such cleaning without the advice of a professional conservator.
As the website text explains - ‘for storage’ - it is best to have the plate surfaces in contact with an acid free, neutral pH paper, made for this purpose. The simplest is a single fold, but this would also require an appropriate seamless slip sleeve of paper or polyester (or polypropylene). Similar sizes should be stored together, all vertically, resting on one edge, in an acid-free box.
The problem is, you would need to know the condition, sizes and numbers of negatives before you could be sure what materials to order for safe storage. Suppliers of museum and archival materials exist in Greece.
Ideally, relative humidity should be above 40% and cool, but with the same stable RH & temperature. Please read my (word document attachment)explanation of the International Standards Organisation (ISO) standards for long term storage of photographic materials.
See, AN EXPLANATION OF THE NEW ISO STANDARDS FOR LONG TERM STORAGE OF PHOTOGRAPHIC MATERIALS
Power House Museum, Sydney.
Top, Map of Sydney, indicating how to find the Power House Museum.
500 Harris Street Ultimo, Sydney NSW 1238
Information Desk Ph: 9217 0111
How to get there
Entrance for 1 day study courses:
Entry via the schools entrance staircase - stairs leading down to this entrance are
located diagonally across from the Harris St courtyard. If you are walking through the covered walkway from Chinatown and the Monorail when you walk out into the Harris St courtyard the stairs are on your immediate right.
Bus: Buses travel from city locations - Circular Quay and Wynard to and from outer
suburbs along George St. Alight at the Harris St or Haymarket bus stop and from either it is a short walk of about 10 mins to the Powerhouse Museum.
For further information on bus and trains call the Sydney Transport Authority: 131 500
submitted by Eric Paddock on 22.02.2006
A History of Glass Plate Negative Photography
An Englishman, Frederick Scott Archer, produced the first usable glass photographic negatives in 1848, and made his secret public in 1851. Archer was only one of many unsung tinkerers who struggled to improve on the astonishing inventions of Niepce, Daguerre, and Talbot, who independently discovered the first photographic processes between 1826 and 1839. Archer’s refinement, known as the wet collodion negative, was a technological triumph that overcame the limitations of earlier techniques without sacrificing their greatest advantages: it was nearly as crisp and detailed as a Daguerreotype, but like the positive-negative process invented by Talbot, allowed identical prints to be made in any quantity.
Archer’s process was far from simple. The photographer dissolved gun cotton (explosive cellulose nitrate) in ether, alcohol, and potassium iodide to make the thick, clear, flammable liquid called collodion. This was flowed onto a sheet of glass that was the size of the finished print, from four by five inches or less up to twenty by twenty-four inches. The photographer then tilted the glass from side to side until the entire surface was coated. The plate was plunged into a bath of silver nitrate (which combined with the potassium iodide in the collodion to form light-sensitive silver iodide), then placed in a plate holder, carried to the camera, exposed, and returned to the darkroom or tent for development. All of this had to be done before the collodion dried, or the negative would be botched and the process would have to be repeated; outdoors on a warm Colorado day, a photographer had about six minutes to get the job done.
This complex and rather troublesome technique discouraged all but the most headstrong professional and amateur photographers. Some wet collodion photographers hired assistants to prepare their plates while they focused their cameras and composed their subjects; others set their cameras up in advance. Photographs were made with great deliberation and care, because it was important to get things right the first time out.
A more convenient type of glass negative, the gelatin dry plate, was introduced in the 1870’s and was in general use by 1885. These were coated with a light-sensitive gelatin emulsion that eliminated the dangerous and messy preparations of wet collodion. Even better, dry plates were factory-made, came in a box, and could be stored for months either before or after exposure with little loss of image quality. Amateur photographers loved them because they were easy to use and gave reliable results; hobbyists and dabblers flocked to the new material in record numbers, and amateur photography as we know it was born. George Eastman capitalized on the growing fad by offering his first Kodak cameras and flexible roll films in 1888 and 1889—these inventions revolutionized photography and led to the decline of glass plate photography, which disappeared all together in the mid-1920’s.
The photographs in this collection reflect an important phase of photographic history, but they are much more than technological artifacts. The era of glass plate photography roughly coincided with the first fifty years of Aspen’s history; the surviving glass negatives of Aspen and its people are important records of how things looked and changed during time. They offer us a sense of depth, of continuity, of connection with the past, and place the present and the future in a new and humane perspective.
Curator of Photography, Colorado Historical Society
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